So I started looking into steroids on my own. He moved to Los Angeles in He started by undercutting the local dealers, then moved into wholesale. Eventually, he became part of a major trafficking ring from Mexico , and co-founded Laboratories Milano in Tijuana , which was the largest black market steroid manufacturing plant in Mexico at the time. He pleaded guilty to the two counts and was sentenced to a maximum of three years in federal prison with five years of probation by Judge J. Duchaine was released after ten months.

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This is the man! Although we spoke at length on various topics, the crux of our conversation was about, what else? As many Testosterone readers may already know, Dan has written countless articles and several books, including the well-received diet bible, "BodyOpus. Although there are a few inaccuracies in USH, it presented an innovative, brutally frank, and often brilliant blueprint of steroid descriptions and their applications.

He also offered what was, at times, a "crudely humorous" yet startlingly eloquent philosophy concerning the use of performance-enhancing substances. At one point during our conversation, I stopped being an interviewer and became a fan.

Dan is free to speak his mind. It should be of no surprise to anyone that he has a lot to say. I would just like to replace the income I was making at Muscle Media.

NM: So your tenure with Bill Phillips is over? DD: As of April, yes. NM: Any chance of Testosterone stealing you over? Not to work exclusively, at least. You guys need to sell more products! Lots of products and lots of advertising. NM: Well, we are trying to be a bit more selective in what we promote and to whom we promote it. Their readership is down from almost a quarter of a million to about sixty thousand readers.

NM: What do you think is starting to hurt them? Is it the promotion of too many products? The emphasis should be to beat the big guys. That means outselling Muscle and Fitness. In an effort to broaden the appeal, they went for a bigger piece of the big pie. It comes down to who has the biggest numbers. A case in point would be injectable prohormones. Derek is selling a Syntrax Innovation product that is made to be an injectable.

As a matter of fact, he may actually turn it over. NM: Will the sublingual prohormones slated to hit the market be more effective?

DD: More than the oral ones, yeah. The higher progesterone helps in the conversion. Taking it in a nasal spray may be every bit as effective as injecting it. Using cyclodextrin for a nasal spray traps the steroid molecule in a water matrix, making it soluble. You do have to know which cyclodextrin to use, and the stuff is pretty expensive As far as injecting prohormones, people who have the balls to do it will do it no matter what. The only thing they have keeping that stuff sterile is a small amount of benzol alcohol.

NM: How effective do you think an injectable Andro would be? DD: Quite! I think nor-androstenediol would probably be damn close milligram for milligram to Deca durabolin. NM: Really?! DD: Sure, that particular compound [nor-andro] was looked into several years ago by Organon and found to have many intrinsic anabolic properties even before it gets converted to nandrolone.

A new book. For example, because Primobolan is derived from DHT, people have made the mistake that it converts to DHT with all the side effects associated with it. I cringe when I see some of the things I said in my old books. Other than the limited data and your personal experiences. I know now that Winstrol tablets, at low dosages, perform better than Anavar at a similar dosage. All of the AIDS studies being done now just confirm what bodybuilders have known all along.

NM: Getting back to your current steroid preferences I think that is the reason for higher required dosages, not so much a "shut down" of receptor sites. My natural testosterone level is below nanograms, so I use a little cypionate just as replacement therapy.

NM: And you cycle the D-bol? I think that proves that steroids are still your best bet for obtaining and keeping muscle. After you build a foundation, even if you only used steroids for a total of a couple of months, it may be the best investment in building muscle that you will ever make. Build a foundation and go from there. Tell me, do you think there is any advantage to taking oral steroids sublingually so they bypass the liver somewhat?

DD: You want them to go through the liver! The reason orals are so effective is they cause all kinds of growth factors in the liver, like IGF1, that an injectable would not do.

NM: You were already out of the steroid-dealing business and into the supplement business when you got nabbed the second time for, what It was considered a federal conspiracy if I was involved at any time with any amount of drugs. Because of my high profile in the sports community and my notoriety for being the upstart of all of this, it was easy for them to find me guilty by association.

The funny thing is, the sale of steroids never went "great guns" until long after I was no longer involved in it. It was kind of funny because we fooled around with some homemade clenbuterol, dissolved it in alcohol, added some red dye, and kept it in the refrigerator with pictures of skulls and crossbones on it. The jug had a label with big lettering on it that said "Do not drink!

One narc says to the other, "Forget about that stuff! DD: Yeah, but when they got to the refrigerator and saw the bottles that said "Do not drink! NM: Does Dan Duchaine have anything up his sleeve as far as new innovations? DD: Actually, I have two over-the-counter thyroid medications coming out within the next few months. Pills tend not to be great sellers, but a thyroid product might do well because it would appeal to so many people, not only bodybuilders.

One of them is the French Triacana which, technically, is a thyroid prohormone—a metabolite of T3. I figured out about a year ago how this could be legal. DD: Well, thanks for saying so. Good luck with the launching of Testosterone. Like all great innovators, Dan paid a price for thinking differently. Dan Duchaine is such an individual. He has forever changed bodybuilding.


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